CSS Style

I have been having a go at producing the PRM’s on your wiki and am using the default CSS styles. However, the text all seems far too big, for producing the RPMs where lots of detailed information needs to be presented to the user.

Is there any way to change the default wiki CSS so the text is not quite as big?

Yeah, I know – your busy releasing sources for RISC OS and I’m pestering you to change a font size on your website. Where are my priorities?!

It looks a reasonable size here – same size as everywhere else and fits in existing specs OK:

https://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/pages/URI+Handler+Functional+Specification

Perhaps there’s a problem with your browser, or the markup you’re using? What browser have you tried and do you have an example page where text is too big?

I use FF3 and Chrome with the same results so do not think its a browser issue.

The example you provided is a good one.

The text “Modified for RISC OS Open Limited Wiki by…” is within a paragraph block and ‘I believe’ it is too large a text size for use through out the wiki. It’s certaily a larger size text than what is displayed, as an exmaple, within these forums.

Ah, OK. We may have to agree to disagree…! The forum text size is smaller but that’s actually due to a limitation in the current CSS which leads to overlap with the right hand sidebar (you’ll probably see it in the link from my reply earlier in this thread). Some existing text in the forum already used wide fixed width lines and shrinking the size was necessary to avoid overlap in a large number of cases. Elsewhere on the site, the size is generally the larger one seen on the Home page, news pages and Wiki.

I’m not sure I really want to shrink the text anymore than it already is, as I don’t really want to fall into the “microscopic text” problem that plagues so many other web sites out there. Not all of our visitors have 20/20 vision or very large, but low resolution monitors. OTOH, it’s easy enough to shrink the font size one stop (Ctrl + Keypad ”-” under Windows IIRC) in Firefox if you’re having trouble.

If there are specific cases where you cannot fit text in how you want then bear in mind that Textile provides tools to change style over specific segments or you can skip Textile altogether and use HTML - edit the URI handler specification page to see how that works.

I must admit I prefer ‘microscopic’ text as opposed to ‘size of the sun’ text found in the ROOL website, but I guess I could well be in the minority. But since it is all driven by CSS I guess it can all be changed site wide with a simple change, if in the future people decide smaller text would be preferred.

I will keep with Textile at the moment as it seems pretty powerful, although I think I may have to op for using html for tables. If you take a look at Window System Areas it has quite a few tables which I think would benefit from fixed cell sizes etc…

I can’t believe I’m quite going to these lengths, but – “size of the sun”? It’s 12 point text!

http://www.riscosopen.org/images/risc_os_open/screenshots/safari3_leopard.png http://www.riscosopen.org/images/risc_os_open/screenshots/firefox3_ubuntu9.png http://www.riscosopen.org/images/risc_os_open/screenshots/opera9_win2k.png http://www.riscosopen.org/images/risc_os_open/screenshots/msie6_win2k.png

If you’re seeing something significantly different from this then there are serious configuration problems with your computer. If you’re seeing the same and you honestly think that this font size is very large then I’m very surprised that you feel this way, but have to say, unless a vocal majority ask for the size to be reduced then at present I’m afraid I’m not going to make any further CSS changes.

I think the test size is fine. Here’s a screenshot of it on NetSurf 2 on RISC OS 5.

http://i42.tinypic.com/2rz6iqt.jpg

Thanks for the heads up – both of you.

At the end of the day, my opinion doesn’t really count. As long as (potential) developers are happy with the text size (and the documentation) then thats all that matters to me.

If everyone else likes the text size then that fine by me.

Thanks again, for looking into it.