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Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

Which makes me ask the question: where are all these types assigned? Are they all in the MimeMap file?

Is it not the app owning the filetype that sets the textual name in its !Boot or !Run file. Eg.

Set Alias$@RunType_1D9 /<SyncDiscs$Dir>.!Run %%*0
Set File$Type_1D9 Syncjob

Topic: General / Feeling alone :-/

“… programmée pour la rentrée 2013” – that’s September, right?

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

It would be useful if ROOL would release a listing of all official filetype allocations. However, such a listing was always treated as ‘commercially sensitive’ and therefore confidential. This cannot be the case now.

Topic: Community Support / GPS and RISC OS

Thanks, Ronald.
Very satisfactory correction for Terry’s code: essentially, a rounding error problem so all is explained.
I’ve had a quick play with PiSerial – though full incorporation will have to wait until I’m not distracted by my chart problems. But, once again, many thanks.

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

Thoughts?

My first thought was you didn’t read all the postings in this thread…

Other than that, I agree with the changes nemo suggested.

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

Who cares what category they are in. Get rid of the first column and get rid of the & in front of the filetypes.

Topic: General / How to do unpredictable USB input

You’ve done too good a job with my camera I’m afraid. I can’t make MTP fail. I’ve tried 5.18 and my development version on my Iyonix. My camera uses the OHCI driver – don’t know if that is significant.

Topic: General / Feeling alone :-/

www.riscos.fr

Hehe… Registered to Ano Nymous. Jeez, I wonder how a Frenchie would pronounce “Nymous”? ;-)

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

That’d be fair enough, but WP:SELFPUBLISH doesn’t regard open wikis as reliable.

Wiki saying that open wikis can’t be considered reliable.

The irony is killing me.

You might have guessed by nemo‘s reply that some editor policies have p!$$ed people off.
One of the things that concerns me is we might make a nice list of filetypes for some jockstrap butthurt <the rest is censored> to come along and decide it isn’t encylopaedic, don’t cite enough references, and nobody except us few gives a crap about such trivia; nominated for deletion…..
For a project that wants to collect together the world’s knowledge, Wiki seems to have some damned strange ideas. Not to mention editors who have the opinion: “I own this topic, mine! Mine! MINE! My precious!”.

While it is rather astonishing to see a list of RISC OS filetypes on Wikipedia, perhaps the most important question I could ask is: Why isn’t it here?

On ROOL’s site is the logical place to catalogue filetypes; and I’m fairly certain that ROOL wouldn’t get hung up over discovery of filetype use by looking at !Boot files (aargh! no citation! aargh! original research! aargh!) because having a coherent list is the important thing.

There is the start of a list (and quite a long list) here:
https://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/show/File%20Types

I would like to make two suggestions:

1. Delete the left hand column. It’s annoying to see “Personal use only” (etc) repeated a billion times. The list should be split into three sections:
   Personal use filetypes (&000 → &0FF), Registered filetypes (commercial and non-commercial; &100 → &9FF, &B00 → &DFF)), Operating System/Acorn filetypes (&A00 → &AFF, &E00 → &FFF). It looks like the list will be five sections due to Acorn giving themselves all the A** types (oh, very droll…)). If we call everything else just “Software”, we can get around “Generic” not containing such utterly generic things as CSV files, but instead having such ludicrous things as Sun raster images; but then the filetype listing is chock full of eccentric quirks!
2. As before, an asterisk or something on a new right-hand column if the filetype has been officially registered.

Thoughts?

Topic: General / How to do unpredictable USB input

How do I turn off logging to see if I have any problems?

See the !Run file.

Topic: General / Feeling alone :-/

Looks like sth is coming in the french riscos “community” (more than 1 is a community, right?): www.riscos.fr

If the creator of this site is active on this forum, he can contct me: I am ready to help for articles and so on!

Wait and see!!!!

François.

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

Interesting. I just tried setting a file on my Iyonix here to F80. The icon changed to a proper XML one, but the filetype remains described as &F80, so there isn’t a textual name for it.

Which makes me ask the question: where are all these types assigned? Are they all in the MimeMap file?

And how come my Iyonix has half the information?

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

Trevor – further to my Talk page post, I can add that I use &112 as a Teletext file in my !Teletext. I used this as it was the same filetype/format as Ground Control’s !TTX. I assumed they would have registered it, but you’ll need to confirm with The Big List Owner. [I thought !TTX was crap so I rolled my own ;-) ]

VideoList file, &17F, is my own, it is a registered type. [source]

I would support removing the Commercial/Noncommercial distinction. This cannot, AFAIK, be maintained as I’m not aware that !Allocate even asks this. Plus, there are several public allocations in the Acorn Reserved area, as I noted in the Wiki talk page (PDF (&ADF) and MSWord (&AE6)); thus maintaining this anachronism will just be confusing. It’s how it was intended, sure, but not how it eventually ended up.

I would especially support a reference to “known to be officially allocated”; for these are real filetypes. Anything unallocated is just winging it…

Topic: General / Feeling alone :-/

Hi Stan and good to hear from you. :)

I sent you a mail, too, which you may have got (using the mail address at your website).

Also, thank you Google Translate for letting me make sense of the Dutch part of your posting. :)

Yeah, I’d love to be part of a Norwegian RISC OS User Group. Maybe that could attract more people to the platform, as well, giving it more exposure, and a place for RISC OS users to find each other.

I’m also a member of Oslo C++ Users Group, where I once had a presentation about Concepts in C++0x (which was eventually pulled from C++0x :) ), and I’m a member of an astronomy club in Norway, Deep Sky Exploration.

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

Officially registered:
155, Filelist, DigitalCD playlist
1A8, Vorbis, Ogg Vorbis audio files in Ogg container, .ogg .oga, audio/ogg audio/x-ogg audio/x-vorbis audio/x-vorbis+ogg application/ogg application/x-ogg
1AD, AMPEG, you can add audio/mp2 audio/mp3 audio/x-mp3 to the existing list
1AE, ImpulsTk, ImpulseTracker soundtracks, .it
1AF, FstTk, FastTracker2 soundtracks, .xm
1B0, ScreamTk, ScreamTracker soundtracks, .s3m .stm
1B1, PCTk, generic file type for PC soundtracks, .afm .dbm .digi .dsm .dtm .far .mtm .ptm .ult .669
1CF, FLAC, Free Lossless Audio Codec, .flac, audio/flac audio/x-flac
A8D, VOB, MPEG DVD-video files, .vob, video/x-vob
A8F, AC3Audio, AC3 raw audio, .ac3, audio/ac3
AA7, M3UFile, mp3 URL list (WinAmp), .m3u .vlc, audio/mpegurl audio/x-mpegurl application/m3u
AA8, pls, internet radio playlist (SHOUTcast), .pls, audio/x-scpls application/pls
F80, XML, eXtended Markup Language files, .xml, /xml */+xml

Topic: General / Feeling alone :-/

Ik ben nog steeds en RISC OS gebruiker, mijn Iyonix doet het ik heb een Beagleboard en een RPi. Op dit moment heb ik veel andre dingen ik moet regelen (o.a. twee autos door de APK krijgen) dus ik heb mijn digital leven op zij gezet. Maar ik hoop om wat meer tijd in de herfst te krijgen voor leuke RISC OS aktiviteiten.

Hei Terje, det er fint å høre at det finnes andre RISC OS brukere i Norge. Jeg hadde kontakt med Jan-Jaap i fjør men har ikke hørt noe fra ham i en stund. Jeg mente at det skulle være morsomt å opprette en RISC OS User Group i Norge. Har du lyst til å være med?

One of the slight problems of living in Norway is that Terje and I “quite close” to each other. That is, it only takes me around four hours to drive from Gol to his home town. Which is longer than it would take a resident of the Netherlands to drive from Groningen to Maastricht :)

As for the RISC OS content of my site, well with the exception of the galleries most of the rest of the site is built using my Iyonix. I also created some format files for EXIFInfo to allow jpegs to be renamed with the date/timestamp. These are to be found here http://mistymornings.net/info/exifinfo.html

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

1D9 Syncjob, used by !SyncDiscs, officially registered.

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

Some more ‘found in the wild’:
6B1 DataFile LTGame
6B2 ArryFile LTGame
6B3 JnyFile LTGame
6B4 TTFile LTGame
EFB BasicChn (to -chain rather than -quit a BASIC programme)
9EB Index (not used any more)
9F0 Money !Money

all of which I just used without bothering to register them.

Also

132 ICO (imagemaster aka DPlgScan)
3d6 (stronghelp)
A7E MSWordX (techwriter)
A81 ODT (techwriter)
aba CPIO (sparkfs)
abf Cabinet (sparkfs)
B24 OVPScrpt (ovation pro)
B25 OvPDDL (ovation pro)
B26 OvPStyle (ovation pro)
B27 OvnPro (ovation pro)
b56 BubStyle (bubblehelp)
df6 CDImage (cdromfs)
e1f (elfrun)
f81 JSScript (phoenix)
f91 URI (pheonix)
f98 PhotoShp (photodesk)

Topic: General / Feeling alone :-/

Bonjour André,

Merci de ta réponse. Je me doutais que le nombre d’utilisateurs francophones n’a jamais dû être très important. Moi-même, qui suis pourtant un peu nostalgique de l’informatique des années 80-90 (atari et amiga principalement), je n’ai entendu parler de RiscOS qu’il y a quelques mois, quand je me suis intéressé au Raspberry Pi… Et je suis littéralement tombé sous le charme! Au point d’acheter plusieurs logiciels commerciaux pour en faire ma station bureautique personnelle principale…
Sur le forum francophone Yaronet.com, un certain “nicam” serait utilisateur francophone. J’espère que ce n’est pas toi, ainsi, nous serions au moins trois :)
Qui sait, peut-être qu’au Quebec…

Cordialement

François

Topic: General / Feeling alone :-/

Bonjour François,

RISCOS n’a jamais été très populaire coté francophone. En de dehors des noms déjà cités je ne connais que:
- moi-même, toujours qui possède toujours un RISC PC et pour lequel je continue de temps en temps à développer DigitalCD et tout ce qui tourne autour.
- Gilles Damoiseaux, membre de BASS à qui l’on doir quelques excellentes démos, mais ca fait +- 15 ans qu’il est passé sur PC.

Coté néerlandophone, je crois qu’il reste encore un groupe d’utilisateurs qui se réunissent de temps en temps du coté d’Anvers.

Topic: General / Feeling alone :-/

Hah-hah… :)

The language used isn’t much of an issue for me: My fiance is American, so we speak English at home. :)

Still, it would be nice to know at least someone else in Norway (or Scandinavia) who uses RISC OS… :)

Topic: General / Feeling alone :-/

Terje…

How lucky you are… You have found a RiscOS fellow speaking your language :D

But it could have been worse for me, I could have been a Laplander ^^

Cheers

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

That’d be fair enough, but WP:SELFPUBLISH doesn’t regard open wikis as reliable.

I couldn’t give a monkey’s what Wikipedia thinks. And that’s putting it mildly.

Topic: General / Filetype for RAW image files

OK, I’ve simplified the markup quite a bit, but it still requires editing in a separate application. I propose making a number of changes:

Remove Category column

However noble the original intention, this categorisation wasn’t reflected in actual usage and is now utterly confusing. What, in any case, does “commercial” mean in relation to MPEG for example?

Remove lists of applications

Explaining which program generates a proprietary filetype is useful, but listing every program that loads text files is not.

Add allocation status

It would be useful to know if a filetype has been officially allocated, or has simply been found in the wild.

Topic: General / Feeling alone :-/

Ah, I didn’t know, thanks. :)