RISC OS Open
Safeguarding the past, present and future of RISC OS for everyone
ROOL
Home | News | Downloads | Bugs | Bounties | Forum | Documents | Photos | Contact us
Account
Forums → Announcements →

Public OWB (beta) release

Subscribe to Public OWB (beta) release 18 posts, 8 voices

 
Sep 18, 2023 1:48pm
Avatar Michael Grunditz (8594) 205 posts

After several years since last time it was showed I decided to do a release.
It is by no way perfect and can crash. But it works much(!) better than the
ones you might have tried before.

The RISC OS version of OWB is more or less Webkit1 for RISC OS..

Stuff you need to know:
Alignments are off.. if you don’t like that , use NetSurf.
Things that looks like a button (forms) will probably crash the system with power cycle as the only way out. A good example is rcomps order page.
There is no download manager.
Window height is fixed.
Mouse movement detection is disabled. It is mostly cosmetics , like hovering effect. The only reason for having it in is to be able to select text. It used to work but now it doesn’t. Having it disabled also makes OWB to use very little cpu when idling.
-——-

So what can it do?(!)
Show pages with JavaScript. Try old-computers.com , gives you a nice floating object.
Native RISC OS scrollbars (but it also displays internal ones, I left that in because of navigating frames).
Get you pages more in line how they should look like.
Real time resize in a very nice looking way ( try riscository)
Speed. Ones a page is loaded and images are decoded , scrolling is super smooth. On my Titanium , cold start from SATA ssd is about 1s, should be fast enough from sdfs discs.
Paste text into OWB. It works for the first couple of lines. Can be used for pasting/drag text into Google.


Since no bookmarks I use a textfile in StrongED with full addresses with http:// etc. When OWB is loaded it should open a new window when a url is double clicked. The first time it might start NetSurf. In that case quit NetSurf ( or other browsers) and try again.


It has been tested on Pinebook Pro, RPi4 and Titanium. If it doesn’t work on other boards please report.

Bug reports are welcome ,, please write what you did and how (hard) it crashed.
Absolutely no guarantee for anything. If it destroys your filesystem , cpu burns or anything , it is on you.
There is a !System in the archive that you might want to merge. If you are a Iris user, then it shouldn’t be necessary or even recommended.
-————
Send me a email to: micken at dfupdate.se for the download link. I also prefer to have bug reports in email rather than here on the forum. I will do a list with known bugs on my web space.
I am always online on irc (ircnet and efnet) my nick is: micken.

Happy testing and browsing!

 
Sep 18, 2023 2:24pm
Avatar Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1612 posts

that is an absolute big news man, thanks a lot and email sent :)

 
Sep 18, 2023 5:01pm
Avatar Bryan Hogan (339) 541 posts

You can see OWB demonstrated and ask Michael questions at tonight’s ROUGOL meeting :-)

 
Sep 18, 2023 9:18pm
Avatar Michael Grunditz (8594) 205 posts

There was a question about Python,, I am running Python 3.8.8 and OWB at the same time.

 
Sep 18, 2023 10:08pm
Avatar Michael Grunditz (8594) 205 posts

I handled over the dl link at today ROUGOL meeting. I did a fix in the template file which seems to cured the url entry bug. Download this file and copy the !OWB over your !OWB.

http://micken.se/pix/owbFIX1.zip

And for everyone else, I am happy to receive emails!

 
Sep 19, 2023 10:02am
Avatar Michael Grunditz (8594) 205 posts

I got a bug report that OWB crashes if a long menu is opened anywhere on screen. I can confirm that.

I have a patch for it, but waiting for feedback if it works (works here™)

Currently the minimum supported screenmode is 1920×1080.

 
Sep 19, 2023 9:26pm
Avatar Michael Grunditz (8594) 205 posts

I added a new function today ,, source view.. I need to find a icon for it =)

 
Sep 19, 2023 11:46pm
Avatar Michael Grunditz (8594) 205 posts

Decided that a menu entry was better.

I have updated the distribution archive with all patches. Those who have the link can download again!

 
2 days ago
Avatar Steve Pampling (1551) 7581 posts

Decided that a menu entry was better.

True. It’s in a menu on Firefox and Edge

 
2 days ago
Avatar Herbert zur Nedden (9470) 24 posts

Hi, prhps I missed something … where can I download OWB

 
2 days ago
Avatar Stuart Swales (8827) 964 posts

Public, but not THAT public ;-)

 
2 days ago
Avatar Rick Murray (539) 12881 posts

Says at the top:

Send me a email to: micken at dfupdate.se for the download link

 
2 days ago
Avatar Michael Grunditz (8594) 205 posts

Hi, prhps I missed something … where can I download OWB

Anyone that send me a email will get the link.
The reason for having a “email wall” is that I don’t want random rool visitors
downloading without knowing what they are doing. Sorry for the inconvenience.

 
2 days ago
Avatar Michael Grunditz (8594) 205 posts

Widgets are still not working, I am aware of that. I am going to disable the code that freezes the system when a popup is clicked on.

Example: The top menus on iconbar.

In the end this will work! Maybe before christmas =)

 
1 day ago
Avatar Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1612 posts

Nice fixes Michael, thanks a lot!

 
15 hours ago
Avatar Michael Grunditz (8594) 205 posts

If you got the archive from ROUGUL meeting please send me a email. If not you will not receive any updates.

The current status is that I enabled history menus and disabled widgets.

 
15 hours ago
Avatar Colin Ferris (399) 1545 posts

As a matter of interest does this prog run on the Emulators?
(Without some people leaping up and down)

 
15 hours ago
Avatar Michael Grunditz (8594) 205 posts

As a matter of interest does this prog run on the Emulators?

No. It uses instructions that aren’t in StrongARM.

Reply

To post replies, please first log in.

Forums → Announcements →

Search forums

Social

Follow us on and

ROOL Store

Buy RISC OS Open merchandise here, including SD cards for Raspberry Pi and more.

Donate! Why?

Help ROOL make things happen – please consider donating!

RISC OS IPR

RISC OS is an Open Source operating system owned by RISC OS Developments Ltd and licensed primarily under the Apache 2.0 license.

Description

Announce and discuss new hardware and software releases.

Voices

  • Michael Grunditz (8594)
  • Paolo Fabio Zaino (28)
  • Bryan Hogan (339)
  • Steve Pampling (1551)
  • Herbert zur Nedden (9470)
  • Stuart Swales (8827)
  • Rick Murray (539)
  • Colin Ferris (399)

Options

  • Forums
  • Login
Site design © RISC OS Open Limited 2018 except where indicated
The RISC OS Open Beast theme is based on Beast's default layout

Valid XHTML 1.0  |  Valid CSS

Powered by Beast © 2006 Josh Goebel and Rick Olson
This site runs on Rails

Hosted by Arachsys