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Updating NOOBS

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Jan 9, 2018 6:59pm
Avatar Gareth (3435) 12 posts

Hi all,

According to this post : https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=193763 the reason there’s only an old version of RISC OS available through NOOBS is that “they” don’t have don’t have the ‘raw’ minimised filesystem.

Anyone got any idea what this means?

Cheers

Gareth

 
Jan 9, 2018 7:42pm
Avatar Steve Pampling (1551) 4319 posts

After a swift read through of that thread my diagnosis is that “ShiftPlusOne” is a regular Linux user who doesn’t know anything about RISC OS.

If you take the description from the slightly later posts by MarkyV in which the sequence is taking the RC15 image and update the Pi firmware files and also update the RO rom file using the nightly beta file then that works.

It might be helpful if someone could update the ROOL offering from RC15 to a RC16 that works on Pi3 and then prod the Pi foundation to use that to update NOOBS.

 
Jan 10, 2018 10:58am
Avatar Jeffrey Lee (213) 5289 posts

It might be helpful if someone could update the ROOL offering from RC15 to a RC16 that works on Pi3

RC15 works on the Pi 3, but not using the latest firmware, which is probably the cause of some of their difficulty.

ISTR that at some point in the past the odd partitioning requirements of RISC OS were also cited as a problem with supporting RISC OS via NOOBS, although I’m not sure if that’s an official reason for it not being supported (this may be the “‘raw’ minimised filesystem” that’s mentioned).

In any case, I believe that the next major Pi release will be 5.24 (due soon™), so the chances of someone at ROOL spending the time to produce another 5.23 RC when 5.24 is just around the corner are pretty slim.

 
Jan 10, 2018 3:10pm
Avatar John Sandgrounder (1650) 372 posts

5.24 (is due soon™),….. just around the corner

Nice to know approximately how soon and which corner?

 
Jan 10, 2018 3:42pm
Avatar Jeffrey Lee (213) 5289 posts

soon™ ;-)

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soon™

 
Jan 10, 2018 5:01pm
Avatar Steve Pampling (1551) 4319 posts

In any case, I believe that the next major Pi release will be 5.24 (due soon™), so the chances of someone at ROOL spending the time to produce another 5.23 RC when 5.24 is just around the corner are pretty slim.

I think most people would take an update of RC15 to RC16 with an updated ROM file that happened to be 5.24 as being a reasonable match to my original statement – there being little difference between a bug checked 5.23 and a declared stable 5.24.

Soon is a flexible time period commonly used around our place too.

 
Jan 10, 2018 8:57pm
Avatar UserGuideEditor (2728) 11 posts
5.24 (is due soon™),….. just around the corner

Nice to know approximately how soon and which corner?

You can help speed matters up by volunteering to review a chapter (or chapters) of the User Guide, which is one task holding up 5.24 that everyone can help with.

 
Jan 11, 2018 11:21pm
Avatar Anthony Vaughan Bartram (2454) 374 posts

I’m always up for a bit of reviewing.

I’m taking a quick look through the Introduction first as this appears a good place to start.

Having read that, I note that: https://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/show/User%20Guide%20small%20corrections appears to be an approprite place to log minor suggestions/corrections.

 
Jan 12, 2018 1:54pm
Avatar mikko (3145) 78 posts

I’m happy to help if I can. I’ll take a look tonight…

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