# BASIC PRINT atpercent

dave_j (3231) 50 posts |
With BASIC module 1.65 This test shows the problem. a=12.345 @%=&02020A PRINT ~@%,a @%=&02010A PRINT ~@%,a @%=&02000A PRINT ~@%,a END Module is: BBC BASIC V 1.65 (30 Mar 2017) 2020A 12.34 2010A 1.2E1 2000A 1.E1 * Module is: BBC BASIC V 1.64 (04 Mar 2017) 2020A 12.34 2010A 12.3 2000A 12. * |

Jeffrey Lee (213) 5198 posts |
So the problem with using the BASIC64 number formatting code is that you inherit all of its bugs and quirks :-) Module is: BBC BASIC VI 1.05 (12 Mar 1992) 2020A 12.35 2010A 1.2E1 2000A 1.E1 Now I just need to work out which bit of code is responsible for the logic… |

dave_j (3231) 50 posts |
Wow, that has been around for a long time then! A little archaeology found the the issue has been seen previously and written up in Archive, January 1999, vol12 no4, “Hint and Tips”. The description is more general than mine was. <quote> @%="F20.3" a=0.1 PRINT ~@%,a a=1234.123 PRINT ~@%,a Module is: BBC BASIC VI 1.64 (04 Mar 2017) 20314 1.000E-1 20314 1.234E3 |

Steve Drain (222) 1025 posts |
It is a bit late now, but you will find the problems with BASIC VI number formatting flagged as WARNINGs in my StrongHelp BASIC manual, which has also been around for quite a long time. ;-) I did write a more reliable (I hope) number formatting routine for 64-bit floats, using VFP instructions, in my Float module. |

Jeffrey Lee (213) 5198 posts |
Not necessarily. This bug was only spotted because I’ve been going round fixing and tweaking things after spotting that |

Jeffrey Lee (213) 5198 posts |
After a bit of work I’ve been able to produce a rough specification for the behaviour of BASIC V’s number formatting. There are more rules to the formatting than you might expect; I suspect some of them only exist as a consequence of the way the code was originally written, rather than as the result of any conscious design decision. One of the “fun” things I’ve been thinking about doing is seeing how well the BBC Micro versions of BBC BASIC handle number formatting, so maybe that could provide some clues as to where some of the behaviour has come from. Nevertheless, from the specification I’ve been able to produce a reference model for the number formatting in BASIC, and wrapped that up in a testbed which compares the interpreter to the reference model. From that I’ve been able to fix up the broken BASIC V 1.65 to format numbers correctly. Now I just need to extend the reference model to work with double-precision floats so I can test it against BASIC VI (which I’m hoping will just work, since both versions are using the same code now). This should also mean the death of all the BASIC VI specific formatting quirks. |

Martin Avison (27) 727 posts |
Well done for chasing some of the formatting anomalies down. It has always struck me as odd (and sometimes annoying) that when BASIC is asked to print a real number ‘with no decimal places’ it leaves the decimal point at the end. To me, 12.345 with no decimal places should be “12” not “12.” |

Rick Murray (539) 7283 posts |
Is there a way to get BASIC to print a whole number with |

Clive Semmens (2335) 1185 posts |
Whole number with no decimals is easy: add 0.5 (assuming you want rounding to nearest) and cast to integer: number% = number+0.5 : PRINT number% If there’s a problem with @% doing the two decimal places thing, you play a messy game with integers and strings, and a “.” character. I’m sure you can work out how – or if you really want me to I’ll write the nasty thing for you… |

Holger Palmroth (487) 101 posts |
It isn’t THAT nasty. :)
For 2 decimals: “+F9.2” and line 70 just reads “=STR$i” |

Jeffrey Lee (213) 5198 posts |
There’s no builtin way of doing it. However you should be able to get pretty close with the following: DEF FNfmt(i) LOCAL @%,A$ @%="+F0.2" A$=STR$i IF RIGHT$(A$,3)=".00" THEN =LEFT$(A$,LEN(A$)-3) =A$ The exception being that for large numbers (e.g. > 2^32) the ‘F’ format will actually revert to ‘E’ format (the code will produce a sensible number, but not in the format you want). But if the wind is that strong you’ve probably got bigger problems on your hands. Whole number with no decimals is easy: add 0.5 (assuming you want rounding to nearest) and cast to integer: Assuming you’re happy with negative numbers being rounded incorrectly :-) |

Steve Drain (222) 1025 posts |
I think this is OK:
However, that will possibly include “.00” when n is not truly an integer, which may not be what you want. |

Clive Semmens (2335) 1185 posts |
This works for 2 decimal places: a%=number+0.005 : b%=(number-a%)*100+0.5 : PRINT a%;“.”;b% which is only a little bit nasty, and has the virtue of being completely independent of @% behaviour. This works for no decimal places: a%=number+0.5 : PRINT a% Remove the +0.5s and +0.005 if you want rounded down rather than rounded to nearest. And of course don’t use those silly sexed quotes that Textile has so kindly provided. |

dave_j (3231) 50 posts |
Many thanks. |

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