RO 5.30 - Wider Media Coverage
DownUnderROUser (1587) 117 posts |
Good to see the 5.30 launch covered in other media outlets (apart from Iconbar, Riscository, etc) ie: Appeared Sunday 28.04.2024 on Distrowatch.com : Appeared on Thursday 02.05.2024 on OSnews.com : Appeared on Thursday on 02.05.2024 on The Register : |
Sveinung Wittington Tengelsen (9758) 237 posts |
These websites has a rather limited readership than the |
DownUnderROUser (1587) 117 posts |
mmm…. do i feed it …. Look, we use RISC OS because we like it for various reasons. It has its issues but it is a retro platform. Amazing to have all this positive development happening lately and that is exciting if you like this sort of thing (I do). If one can’t say anything positive, ever, then maybe go and do/use something else… |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8125 posts |
Probably not a good idea, but this one might leave it wondering about the taste:
Maybe I did it wrong, but I’ve been asked whether, in my ages of travels1 I’ve ever come across RISC OS.2 Not that popularity is an accurate measure of greatness. Most people know the adage involving millions of flies. 1 Oldest and longest serving member of the department. 2 I did spend a few years ensuring the continued health of a BBC Micro in Pharmacy. |
Rick Murray (539) 13747 posts |
Sveinung said something… Verily, I must beseech you to ponder upon the nature of your argument, for while it is conveyed with fervent conviction, it reveals itself to be estranged from the realms of truth and reason, nay, bordering upon the very precipice of delusion. As I undertake the meticulous dissection of your assertions, a profound divergence from the bastions of empirical evidence and logical coherence emerges, casting quite the shadow upon the veracity of your claims. |
GavinWraith (26) 1559 posts |
I applaud the sentiments, but the words themselves are surely framed by ChatGPT? Rick doesn’t generally express himself thus. Can it do them in exotic languages, too? |
Rick Murray (539) 13747 posts |
While I know all those words, I’m usually less erudite because it’s much simpler to call a duck a duck. So, yes, I cheated slightly. ;) I asked it to refute a generalised argument (followed by some tweaking to get it to understand). I then copied its reply and feed it back asking it to express that in Victorian English, asked it to expand it, asked it for fancier words… But, yeah, the ’bot helped. |
Chris Mahoney (1684) 2160 posts |
As have I, actually. It was circa 2011, when the Raspberry Pi was coming soon. The topic of the Pi came up, and the other guy said something like “Have you ever used RISC OS? They’re making a version for the Pi.” It transpired that he was ex-Acorn, but I never met him again and I don’t remember his name. |
David J. Ruck (33) 1585 posts |
Rick, you don’t need sodding AI to call a twunt a twunt. |
Chris Mahoney (1684) 2160 posts |
Yeah, but doing it the old-fashioned way means that you’re not wasting as much energy or violating copyright, so where’s the fun in that? |
Rick Murray (539) 13747 posts |
Doing it the new fangled way means you can have the additional fun of reading it as though it were a Python sketch. ;) |
Clive Semmens (2335) 3274 posts |
Indeed, but not from the side that one normally thinks of when making such a statement. And climbing a precipice from the bottom is a hell of a lot harder than falling over it from the top. I’ve not put my toe in the waters of ChatGPT et al yet; very likely never will. I just think/write like this anyway. |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8125 posts |
Speaking of effort, I note that the contributions to the code in RO5.30 are credited to 27 different people. |
Andrew McCarthy (3688) 601 posts |
Another media sighting: https://hackaday.com/2024/05/04/risc-os-gets-an-update/ |
Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1821 posts |
I completely agree with this sentiment. Everyone has their reasons for using and enjoying RISC OS as it is. It’s perfectly fine for it not to be the “Next Linux”. In my experience with other retro OSes that have already been rewritten from the ground up, none have surpassed the popularity of their vintage predecessors. Consider the Amiga world with AROS and MorphOS: - AROS runs on multiple platforms (x86, PPC, 68K) and is compatible with the original AmigaOS, same CLI or Desktop and a much better implementation than the original one. However, despite this, hardly anyone knows about it1. AROS is Open Source, but that didn’t help much for popularity either. Likewise, Atari TOS was the first to be rewritten and on a Unix kernel (MiNT), but it hasn’t garnered widespread attention1. Why? Because things are what they are. The “OS wars” have long passed, and RISC OS wasn’t even on the battlefield. Nowadays, people are accustomed to using Unix-like systems on phones (iOS and Android), Windows for most corporate desktops, macOS in studios and corporations, and Linux/BSD in the cloud. The only area that fluctuates is the Linux Desktop market. Therefore, it’s irrelevant whether RISC OS is advertised on more popular media or even on YouTube or Twitch. As DownUnderROUser mentioned, it’s a retro OS we all like for our reasons. There are people working to advance it as much as resources, hardware, and time permit. That’s really nice, IMHO, ‘cause it allows everyone to do more with it than ever before. To have it ready for a large audience, it needs rewrite from the ground up and, after such an endevour, it’s NOT assured at all it would gain any success (regardless if we like RO or not). 1 Except a small minority of the retro community that still uses those variants for fun. P.S. And yes I have fed the troll, my fault. I better go to make a coffee and back to my enjoyable activities, sorry everyone. |
David Lamda (9487) 48 posts |
I beg thee parden! |
jim lesurf (2082) 1437 posts |
Should that be “I beg of thee, thy pardon!” ? or are we getting into “Don’t thee thou me!” territory? 8-} |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8125 posts |
Possibly archaic language discussions diverted to Aldershot |
DownUnderROUser (1587) 117 posts |
You have probably guessed I am a bit of a fan of OSNews so will just leave this here: |