general question about riscos.
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G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
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G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
After i agree you can develop a flash plugin in machine code on DOS. |
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Frederick Bambrough (1372) 837 posts |
Don’t know how else to put this, so… G0ST, It’s apparent that you’re really distressed. Take your medication. If you’re not using any, seek support. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
Don’t how else to put this haha ok , well i guess that conclude my stay on this place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IR8XAC9TRU keep sedated :D |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
No it’s clear need to be clinically insane to hope anything from this place ha ha I leave on your basic and your html 0.8 compatible browser and antiquited memory model, if you need a good psy, or have some kind of codependency issue to need to care about other who doesn’t ask anything, i can give you a good number :) |
Rick Murray (539) 13818 posts |
Fascinating things, these mobile phones. Makes it quite easy to capture shots of what is on the screen… |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
Well i just remove them because i don’t like to leave thing that stay on google for 10 years, and get referenced or idk if i’m not even there to answer them or watch the evolution, what’s the point ? there might be errors, or stuff, then if i’m not updating them, and not there, i don’t see the point to leave them here .. The thread of android it had about 6000 views, i don’t know who watch this, i’m not there to correct or answer, so i prefer to remove it. I’ll repost this on my site. It’s just little script to parse the link in the page, just to precise if some people think i deleted all in rage or something, i have scripts like that for forums to parse links and send post, ok on riscos it would take a month, but with decent browser and proper scripting language, it’s just a few minute. You can also copy the text, or make a bot , google does this all day on the hole internet with indexing, referening, semantic analysis, yes it’s technology is fascinating. It evolved quite a lot since the old day of polaroid and riscos. I prefer to repost the same thing on my site and keep the traffic in a way lol just in case someone would be really interested into making something of riscos, it would deserve it, it’s too bad sometime some people you wonder why they go open source with a source they don’t understand and community who insult you once you ask a question, you wonder the benefit sometime .. Well about null in the past 10 years i guess … But if you want to repost them here and pretend they are yours, you can, it’s not either some rocket science .. Or if you want an autograph on them, i sign it too, if you really need to keep a little something to remind me lol I will try to see with justin if something serious can be done for browser and threading for cgi, and otherwise i won’t bother, because here i give up lol For someone bragging about lawayers and ownership right all day, that look a bit amator, but well i guess it’s like the rest of riscos Maybe you’d have better chance with google cache, and it will already be in text form, just saying because you seem to be a bit noob with technology and internet and those things. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
Fascinating things, these mobile phones. Makes it quite easy to capture shots of what is on the screen… But yeah that kinda prove my point of your intention to exploit somehow my content without my consent which is also partially why i have such kind of script when i post on web with people that i feel like megalomaniac exploiter and liers, just mesure of security, it’s clear it’s impressive the many things that can be done with a phone or a computer nowdays, well for people who use something else than riscos at least. Is is some kind of threat of black mailing, or plain copy, or could you be clearer about your intention here ? That sort of say it all regarding how trustworthy people are on this place really .. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
Need to say also that the great security of this forum due to the enormous skills of the webmaster doesn’t make it too hard to script things at will and make thousands of request and all, it’s fantastic what can be done with internet nowdays, it often leads to fascinating situation, but no it’s not a threat, i’m not like this :) already i deleted the other account to prevent myself to enter something more obscene than ‘aaa’ in the script to force admin to remove the account and the whole threads, so you see i’ve been nice :D Not but really i value my thought, my time, those idea and all other thing it’s time i spent on it, all the documentation on disc map, boot image, and the structure of riscos image and filesystem i will probably put that somewhere on mysite, and the other things for android. All the thing about multi tasking , memory, modules, relocation etc are things i already have, that works. And that riscos doesn’t have. Well you have your phone, and picture, that’s fascinating. So yeah, boohoo, you couldn’t keep all the content with you to brag how helpful this forum is to newbies with such great infos that you even steal with your phone on the internet like james bond. Yeah it’s the only reason why i removed all this, and why i have scripts to parse this kind of place =) |
Steffen Huber (91) 1953 posts |
From me, a big “thank you” for wasting our time. And for the insults. That really brought RISC OS forward. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
Yeah i know, people always says to me after wanting impossible result and then insulting without having a clue of how to do anything, but that’s nothing compared to the greats things riscos do for mankind already. That’s relaly bringing technology forward. Obviously i didn’t do much better than anyone else who tried in the past 10 years and all the one who will try in the next 15 years. But well i guess marketting need keep things promising in the future and all, and pretend it’s the fault of other and all, they are insane, they need support, etc it’s not because riscos is a piece of crap and the team has zero organisation, sure not at all. Thanks for that great contribution to the world of technology, the world wouldn’t be the same without it . It looks very promising to attempt at doing anything more than an printf. Thanks for your great contribution to my contribution, you all have been extremly helpful, nice, polite and all, a real part of fun. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
But yeah it’s sort of shame that i bumped into the exact same issue, with the exact same solution that every os on the planet have for 15 years, and that justin tried to do, being faced with the same reaction, than probably any other contributor to this, and then everything stay same years after years, with the same known issue, the same problems, the same needs, and everyone stay there saying it’s all fine and if you’re not happy go away thanks for your contributation ha ha It’s clearly not a problem with the os, the team, the documentation, the attitude clearly, all this is perfect, it’s only contributors who are too stupid to program everything that any other os for 20 years, while not breaking any 20 year old application, asking any question, and ‘just doing it’, that’s probably it. That clearly looks very attractive. Make you wonder why the bother to open the source will all those active contributors x) |
Rick Murray (539) 13818 posts |
I think you have made your opinions fairly clear.
Dude, get real.
No, it pretty much won’t. Oh, yes, they will both be expressed in assembler in the most concise way possible (and Norcroft is pretty good here), however the compiler has many restrictions on its behaviour – APCS, stack frames, blah-de-blah. Anybody who has programmed in ARM code for any reasonable length of time will know that much of the OS was written by hand, in assembler, just by looking at it.
Why should it? The entire point of the PRM is to document the API. It is like “here are the calls and services provided by the OS – here’s how to use them”. Really, it doesn’t matter to the application how the OS gets it done, just so long as it behaves in the manner that is documented.
A bit like your response to my request for specifics regarding your configuration with the networking that according to you manages not to mess up 20% of file transfers. I was going to try to recreate what you were doing between a PC running XP and the Pi running RISC OS… but since your reply was to delete your message, obviously you would rather slag off the operating system and its users than attempt to resolve the problem you are experiencing. Tant pis hein?
Not under x86-64 you can’t. NTVDM is not a part of 64 bit versions of Windows.
I guess you simply don’t understand the point of a forum.
And you determined this how? Was one of your linked pictures tracking people? Besides, 6000 views? Of a single RISC OS forum thread? Yeah, right.
If this is your attitude, why did you post in the first place?
…which will also be subject to search engines and archival tools visiting, not to mention Chinese (etc) taking copies of the entire thing.
I rather suspect nobody else would have even thought about writing a script to delete all of their posts, no matter how easy it may be on other more capable browsers…
Please Cease and Desist from making such accusations. I posted a screenshot of one of your messages. It was clearly identified as yours in the picture, laid out in the standard forum style, as viewed on a mobile phone. At no point did I claim that the content shown was mine (frankly, I have too much self respect…).
Unlike you, I don’t delete my old posts. I might write a load of old bollocks but I stand by what I say or apologise if I was a moron (it happens ;-) ).
No, I just know how to get a task done quickly. I mean, what the hell? Your option:
My option:
To quote you: it’s not either some rocket science
Interesting opinion. While I do not think RISC OS Open has any specific copyright policy regarding forum posts (ie they are not required to be Creative Commons or anything), you have written in a public forum that is freely accessible by people. It could be quite validly said that by the act of writing to a public forum, you are releasing what you have written into the public domain or at the very least implicitly giving consent for others to use said writing.
I use whatever is most appropriate for the job. Unlike these megalomaniac liars you seem to fixated on, I fully understand that I can’t watch my animé on RISC OS. Nor, surprisingly, can I make phone calls with it. And to be honest, RISC OS really utterly sucks at GPS navigation. I guess most machines not having onboard GPS might be a reason, but hey, why nit-pick?
Easy. I have noticed you writing some inflammatory stuff and insults, and then you delete it all. As this forum has no archive or rollback, everything written in reply is left without context. Mass-deleting everything is a spectacularly unfriendly thing to do. I did want to refer back to one of your posts discussing FileCore’s insides. Now it’s all gone. See what I mean about unfriendly?
Trust is a two way street.
WTF? It’s a generic mass produced Android phone. Nothing even remotely James Bondy. And I don’t land the hot chick either… ;-)
Uhhh… What marketing?
Well, thank you. If RISC OS is a disorganised “piece of crap”, then why are you still here? It quite clearly is not what you are looking for.
As has been said a number of times when this comes up – what is the purpose of an OS that has no applications to run on it? There are a number of things that I would like to see changed – this is the point where I usually ramble on about crappy Unicode support meaning I have to rename all my MP3s that are written in Japanese, I’ll spare everybody going over that again (and again (and again (…))) – but the problem here is that implementing changes that break existing software, that’s not a good way forward. The OS may be nicer, but everybody will be using the one that works… Right-o. Now time to shut the shutters, feed the furry creatures, and make dinner. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
You can learn how RISC OS works to gain the knowledge of how to modify it in a way that will not break legacy applications Nobody here knows how it works, or how to do more than a printf with it. Nobody can tell how application work, what need to be changed or not, do documentation, no competences, only old fart bragging about knowing the old stuf and don’t want a screw to move no loose their kind of privilege of superiority over other user on their ancienty. That’s all riscos is about. Old far bragging about their old stuff and not wanting anything to change. Justin tried 15 year, to do the exact same thing everyone wants, and still didn’t do it, even with all the doc and suppport. Clearly i’ll find my own system to be more suitable, less encumbered, more modern. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
YEah dude get real, people are on this source for a decade, nobody still understand it, you think it’s because of what ? lol |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
Well, thank you. If RISC OS is a disorganised “piece of crap”, then why are you still here? It quite clearly is not what you are looking for. I’m not here anymore, like every developper who even tried to do anything more with it than a failed printf :) There is only my ghost haunting the place :) |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
Here it’s like everyone is deseperate for stuff to be done, about no browser left, nobody is even able to tell properly how to compile it, for PMT haha the big joke, nobody here has even one tenth of the level to do this, not even speaking about having something like a DOM browser. That’s just it, no competence, no cooperation, just old fart bragging about their old stuff and not wanting anything to move on their 20 year old crap. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
I’m interested to do things on operating system, but yeah riscos doesn’t have what i need, nobody know how do it, nobody know even vaguely the road to be taken to get there, nobody know anything and want result, now fast, without question. That’s sure a very successful way, compared to any other os. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
Honourable decent people do not feel a need to delete their old posts on whatever lame excuse, nor do they find boringly repetitive ways to insult everybody in pretty much every single post. Well i’ve been clear with my objective since the beginning. My objective is not to port 20 old application that i don’t care about, or to make all the gran daddy right with their old manual like ‘i knew it riscos could do it’ while nobody has a clue to do anything. I have applications, that work already on most major os, and that are light enough to probably be bootable or work on much simpler/faster systems. Well i’ll see if something can be worked out quickly with justin, otherwise i give up on riscos, impossible to move anything, it doesn’t do what is required by far, and all kind of myth and dragons about old stuff that no one know anything about, just repeating like robots some first grade manual on software stacks and thinks that look smart. My goal since the beginning was this. period. Not to make riscos competitive with major os in 2 weeks without asking question. Then you have told me, filer are made to do this, it’s easy on riscos, okay, then explain me how to do it now ? As you said it’s so easy with your programming skill to give advice how to develop operating system and maintain them, how to do preemptive system, then i’d return the compliment to you ‘just do it’ as you seem so great at it. Already the fact that the only example you could find is from the prm for riscos 3 and about 20 year, and that no one else since then manage this miracle to put a filer together, justin didn’t even try, regarding the capacity it can have, it should have worried much about the verity of your saying, and your honnor and all, as many things are easy to spot. Then okay maybe precompiled maybe not, ask yourself how there are how those filer that work splendid shipped with the os, and that no other has really been made without lot of effort and high level language, and when you open the risc architecture manual on operating system, the first parapgrah is about how to represent programming concepts into high level language that is critical into a risc OS, from 1989, and then nobody can understand or work with the source since then … And the concept it embodies are not assembler/cpu concept, they are high level concept, that are actually very close to objects. It’s not even ‘natural’ to program in C, as all the hacks and stuff linked to abi and all, C doesn’t provide the level of encapsulation to program this, arm assembler, much less. Well now you make the equation, i don’t know any better than you about this, it’s just an opinion, and i haven’t been lied about the veracity or authencity of that thought . You will try to explain me how to make multi threaded video and 3D engine works with an timer interrupt maybe, and how great is netsurf for webgl, portable internet video games and multi media applications ? Fix your printf first, before to say lies to people. Sure who needs c++, objects, threads, dependecies, it’s all hell right, compared to how easy it is to solve those issues with what riscos has. Until you ask how, and example, and then only irrelevant things, lies, insults, well okay, that sure seem to be very much going forward in here since 1990. It’s not a risc thing, it’s a thing of old generation of os that predate preemptive system with corba and dependency hierarchy, and there is no advantage into having all kind of esoteric things programmed in assembler vs object oriented and corba like, really none. It’s just old and the way all operating system were working in the 90’s. What’s the point of leaving those post here ? nobody is interested to develop this, just telling cheap lesson on english grammar and psychanalysis, well i’m not interested into this. The only reason why anything has be posted here to begin with is to see if some people are insterested to develop these aspect that i posted over and over again, just to face the same reaction that everyone who wanted to do this faced for the past 20 years, with the same result. But clearly, nothing wrong on your side, it’s all the contributers and developpers who are too silly to get result fast done for free without documentation while being insulted. That sure seem to works very well so far. I got my answer, riscos is very far from being able to do what i need, despite all the lies about it’s easy to do this on riscos blabla, riscos is great, well when you try out nothing work, there is ton of work to do, and everyone is like everything is perfect, don’t touch anything, well kay, for the moment it can’t do what i want to do, and nobody seem to want to move a finger about it, despite what 90% of user would say regarding preemptiveness and dom compatible browsers. I have code to do this, but like 95% of the code of the planet, of course, it doesn’t work on riscos, cannot be ported easily, no tools, no documentation, plenty of bugs, 20 old application that none can tell anything clear and precise about that need to be remaining there, even if nobody use them at all, only a forum with incompetent and impolite people who try to explain other how to do things, giving only bad and ignorant advice and wanting things done fast and result and without moving anything of the 20 years old application and then stealing their post and code as much as they can to brag about how helpful great and brillant they are ? sure. That does seem to make sense and realistic, specially coming from someone who such a vast experience in programming operating system and applications. And you do a great job at attracting so much talented developpers it’s crazy. Appliction to do what, video edition ? audio edition ? audio live performance ? Streaming ? 3D ? Raytracing, Advanced web ? Show them to me , i want to see them to show how great is riscos at doing all those thing better than windows, linux, android. My goal has never been to help with riscos, or to fix all your bugs and all your mess and doing all the work alone either. Ok for doing little work of quick fix, not to rise a whole army of troll and bullshit and then getting insulted for doing something that riscos just obviously need to have anything more than a printf a 20 year old application that no one use or buy. niteresting opinion. While I do not think RISC OS Open has any specific copyright policy regarding forum posts (ie they are not required to be Creative Commons or anything), you have written in a public forum that is freely accessible by people Well now the case is easier to deal with legally :) Well i have some patent on things i talked about, well not the part about multi tasking, dom, and all this, but never know if in let say year of time i can pull out something worthy, i know it is commercially viable because i already have buisness model for this, they all need update and all, but i know it’s the kind of thing that can be interesting for many applications. It’s also part of why i didn’t want to leave things on google, never know. Except if justin can be more helpful than here, it will need something else to run on the pi. And unlike other system who are more sectarian and closed up in the 1990’s bubble, modern system can be more compatible with other’s system’s ABIs, or file system format etc, it improve compatibility, portability etc Specially with people who then want to copy it back, pretend it’s there work, and their intelligent to brag about smart words of other on the internet pretending they are as smart and helpful as the people who wrote it originally. Well yeah, just rambling a little, you deserve it well lol Well things can be reposted, i will repost them probably in better form anyway and you’ll be better able to exploit this than trying to reconstruct from the quote =) |
Rick Murray (539) 13818 posts |
Yeah, a word of advice for you. Give up. In other words, I really really don’t think he’d be interested.
Well, JavaScript and cobra and stuff I’ve never heard of. I am working on a project that runs on RISC OS and it does what I need. I don’t require scripting, I don’t even know what cobra is, and… well, to each their own. You wouldn’t try to port “The Last Of Us” to run on RISC OS, would you? Just because it doesn’t match your expectations and requirements does not automatically mean the system is a “piece of crap” and that we are liars.
Meh, I’m only interested when Tanukis are involved.
Do you mean for an Image filing system, or an actual Filer? Image – most of the work happened in the hey-day of RISC OS and there are numerous – SparkFS and X-Files to name two. The latter has source available, too.
The fact that RISC OS is available for the Beagle (OMAP3), Panda (OMAP4), Pi and Pi2, and the iMX6 show that there are people who understand the OS. Obviously we don’t all understand it, but then how many people really understand all of the Linux kernel (never mind everything else). So, yeah. People understand it and people work on it, and that is pretty obvious from the downloads page. But, hey, let’s not let a little thing like the obvious truth get in the way of a rant.
Well, sometimes I look at things in C++ (my uncle wrote a few educational textbooks on the subject) and I can’t help but think that the concepts were stuff that had been around long before. It does not surprise me that the code contains some things from a higher level; but it was really written in assembler.
Huh? NetSurf doesn’t do this stuff. At times, that can be a blessing. The site that gives me lyrics for anime songs is chock full of pop-up adverts now. It is absolute hell to use on a mobile phone.
What is wrong with printf? Unlike certain other systems, ours doesn’t crash if you do this:
Kindly find one post from one single person who actually claimed all of this is possible on RISC OS.
Blah blah blah. Whatever. On our platform, some things are difficult, if not borderline impossible, some things are simpler. Trying to make RISC OS do all the stuff Linux can do is not in the “simpler” category. And, honestly, I think turning it into a Linux clone would be a waste of time, if we wanted to run Linux there are enough versions to pick from already. Coming here with fanciful ideas about a whole load of stuff that is extremely unlikely to happen, and then stressing out when this is pointed out to you, calling us liars repeatedly, insulting us, insulting the people working on RISC OS, insulting the administration – just exactly what kind of reaction did you expect? I’ll tell you what, probably the reason you are still here being rude to us is because we are a much more tolerant bunch than many. But, since your reaction to asking technical questions is to either erase your messages or be rude, it seems fairly clear to me that you don’t actually want any help. I think you just want a reaction. As I said just now, whatever. You don’t like RISC OS and you don’t like us. What I don’t understand is why you keep repeating the same rubbish over and over. That’s kind of bizarre. Goodbye. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
Just because it doesn’t match your expectations and requirements does not automatically mean the system is a “piece of crap” and that we are liars. Clearly i’m the only one to use or require a web browser with DOM, js , webgl and corba. That’s clearly not at all a very generic crucial demands, it’s just ‘my’ needs, sure. |
G0ST (2668) 79 posts |
The fact that RISC OS is available for the Beagle (OMAP3), Panda (OMAP4), Pi and Pi2, and the iMX6 show that there are people who understand the OS. Obviously we don’t all understand it, but then how many people really understand all of the Linux kernel (never mind everything else). If i want to go on a forum to know this stuff, i can find very competent people, or at least clear documentation wrote by them, who can answer question with competent answer, even on the kernel. It’s not all so well documented, but minimum, it can be made sense of, and many question can be answered easily without being told to be insane or idk what. |
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