RISC OS on Linux
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David Boddie (1934) 222 posts |
At 25:30 in this video an audience member claims that they’ve “ported RISC OS to run on top of Linux”. Does anyone have any idea who that might have been? |
Jeffrey Lee (213) 6048 posts |
Timothy Baldwin? https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/5/topics/2092 |
David Boddie (1934) 222 posts |
Perhaps. I’d forgotten about that. It’s good to know his patches are still available in spite of the mixed response in that thread. Not sure how useful they would be now. Timothy was still posting on here last year so perhaps we can ask directly. Was it you? ;-) |
Jeffrey Lee (213) 6048 posts |
Just in case it goes unnoticed. |
Brian Warburtonh (7804) 2 posts |
Do you know how to impliment the internet using Riscos on the RasberryPi |
Dave Higton (1515) 3477 posts |
Are we all agreed that the previous posting is spam? |
Rick Murray (539) 13747 posts |
Probably, but maybe tread carefully, it isn’t advertising anything. If Brian is a real person – could you please be more specific as to what you mean? Implement the internet?!? |
Brian Warburtonh (7804) 2 posts |
I mean configure by implement. My main OS is Rasbpian and configuring the IP |
Bryan Hogan (339) 584 posts |
Firstly, note that RISC OS has no WiFi support so you will have to plug in an ethernet cable. It should then just pick up its IP settings via DHCP when it boots. If that is not working, then to check the settings click with the middle mouse button (with a modern mouse this will be clicking the scroll wheel) on the raspberry icon in the bottom right of the screen and choose Configure from the menu. This should open the configuration window which includes a Network icon. Have a poke around in there! If you are new to RISC OS, note that all menus are context sensitive and popup when you click the middle (known as Menu) button on the mouse. |
George T. Greenfield (154) 736 posts |
1. Is anyone using the RISC OS on Linux port as their regular RISC OS implementation? If so, I for one would be interested in their day-to-day experience of it. |
Raik (463) 2052 posts |
1.) Not really because at work is WIN and at home I not need but I have a working Port on Pinebook Pro with Manjaro and Pi4 with Raspian. I use to play around with and try my own software. |
George T. Greenfield (154) 736 posts |
Thanks, Raik; I’ll have a look at installing Debian instead of Raspbian, to get the benefit of the installation documentation which you mention. |
Raik (463) 2052 posts |
Sorry, was not clear what I wrote. |
George T. Greenfield (154) 736 posts |
No – you were quite clear: I didn’t carefully enough read what you wrote! But thanks for clarifying. |
GavinWraith (26) 1559 posts |
I currently run RISC OS 5.28 on an Rpi3B and 5.27 on an ArmBook. I can also run Raspbian and Manjaro on an Rpi4 and Manjaro on the Arm/PineBook. By using !FTPc in RISC OS and vsftpd in Linux it is very easy to move files between them. That said, I find the idea of being able to run RISC OS from within Linux very appealing, especially if it were possible for each system to exploit what the other can do better. But reading this thread, and the Porting RISC OS to Linux thread, I am left rather confused as to what has been achieved and what is currently available to persons of my level of incompetence. Let me spell out what I would like – though I should qualify it with all those apologies due to persons who have already worked hard on a problem from one who has not and who probably underestimates the difficulties involved. I would like to be able to do and then find a RISC OS cog item in my Raspbian main menu. Clicking on it should open a window displaying a RISC OS desktop within it. Unfortunately drag-and-drop is apparently unknown to the Raspbian desktop, but would it be possible to adapt cut-and-paste to work (an inferior substitute, IMHO) across both systems? That is my dream. That and clear documentation about how to configure and use such a riscos5_28 package.
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Jan Rinze (235) 368 posts |
Installing RISC OS for Linux using apt is unlikely going to happen in the near future since it relies on DDE tools. |
Steve (8993) 54 posts |
Hello all, I am following this discourse with great interest. I would like to buy a Linux laptop for some functionality I cannot do without. But I do all my work on RISC OS. So a RISC OS emuation on top of Linux seems like a good solution to me. But I am still in doubt about the following points. |
Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1821 posts |
Hi Steve,
RISC OS emulation on Linux (via RPCEmu) is better than using Virtual-RPC and this is so for few factors: 1) Virtual-RPC (VRPC) seems to have problems with modern NetSurf releases
Can you please define “properly”? RPCEmu supports 2 different network configurations: 1) NAT mode, this is super easy to configure, but also “hides” your RISC OS from the rest of the network, which means ShareFS won’t work, while everythign else will
RPCEmu HostFS supports Linux’s SymLinks (symbolic links) so you can simply create a symlink to your USB dongle in the root of your RPCEmu HostFS or in a dedicated directory (for example `devs`) and, when you plug your USB stick on your Linux laptop you will be able to access it via that symlink (just double click on it on RISC OS).
you have read it correctly, HostFS is a filesystem that allows you to access your linux disc from RISC OS, so yes this is the easiest way to copy files between the two of them in RPCEmu. Hope this helps and if you have further questions, maybe it would be worth opening a new thread for this in Community Support? Thx :) |
Steve (8993) 54 posts |
Hi Paolo, Thanks for the extended answer. I will have to read thru it for a second time. I do not have time now but I will answer more extensive later. I will define the network tonic “Properly”. |
Steve (8993) 54 posts |
Hi again Paolo. After you have answered this last question I will delete the two entries I’ve made in this Post. My final question is the elaboration on the “properly working of the Network”. With Properly I meant, Can I axes the internet with for example Netsurf, FTPc, ore the Iris browser? Thanks, Steve |
Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1821 posts |
Hi Steve,
I have no problems at all with Netsurf, FTPc and other on my RPCEmu (and I am even use it on macOS, I did my own port for macOS M1). The one I use for tests-automation on Linux (OpenSuse Tumbleweed, which is also a rolling Linux distribution, so constant updates and changes) works really well. One note about Iris Browser: Iris Browser is not a good idea on RPCEmu. RPCEmu (and VirtualAcorn too) are emulators that reproduce the old RiscPC. RPCEmu is indeed capable of running RISC OS 5, but that is as far as it can go. Iris is a modern piece of software that uses a port of WebKit framework, which not only is modern code compiled using GCC 10 with the GCCSDK project, but it’s also quiete heavy, so, even if it would run on an RPCEmu system it would be incredibly slow. So, if you’re planning to use modern applications on RISC OS 5, then I strongly suggest to buy a cheap Raspberry Pi (at least a 3B+ model, better if it’s a 4 with 2GB RAM, or a Pi 400) and if you really need a laptop, you may want to wait until the port to the PineBook Pro is ready, RISC O S5 performs really well on the PineBook Pro.
Not sure how old is the article you’re refering to, I use RPCEmu by many years and I never had problems with it. If you have any issue, you can always ask for help here in the RPCEmu section. Good luck! :) |
Steve (8993) 54 posts |
Hi Paolo, thanks for answering again. I know all I need to know now, and will go ahead with my purchase of a Linux Laptop. I will remove my posts after you have read my answer. Thanks again, Steve |
Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1821 posts |
Hi Steve,
No need to remove :) – Just for the future, there is a full RPCEmu section here, just sayin… and pleasure, good luck with your fun advneture with RPCEmua nd RISC OS! :) |
Steve (8993) 54 posts |
Hi to all. I have the pleasure to run RPCEmu on top of Linux Ubuntu laptop. It was a bit of a battle to get it stated not being a Linux user, but the emulation starts up properly in the screen resolution of my laptop 1920×1080. Selecting “Full Screen” I expected it to take the full screen. The emulation takes over the screen but does not center in the middle of it. Therefore I can’t reach the toolbar at the bottom. Does anyone have an idea way it does not center? |
Paul Sprangers (346) 516 posts |
I can’t help you with your question, but starting a new topic is a matter of going to one of the subforums (RISC OS on Linux, for example) and click ‘New topc’. That link disappears though, as soon as you click one of the topics within that forum – which is a bit confusing indeed. |
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