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I'm worried about the bounties.

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May 21, 2020 7:41pm
Avatar Krzysztof Jeszke (6296) 30 posts

I take a look at the bounties about once a week. The ones that i looked into
TCP/IP stack overhaul (Step 2 of 4) and TCP/IP stack overhaul (Step 3 of 4)
Seem to have no donations since a month. And if the time passes we might have
another bounty another fail.

 
May 22, 2020 3:01pm
Avatar Alan Robertson (52) 394 posts

I believe the donations page are manually updated when someone at ROOL finds the time, probably once a month I’m guessing. So it’s possible there have been donations but the page has not been updated.

With regards to the two bounties; I think they are too important not to be completed. One way or the other they will get written and implemented into RISC OS.
We’re all pining for native Wifi.

 
May 22, 2020 3:30pm
Avatar Krzysztof Jeszke (6296) 30 posts

Having 26 years outdated wifi driver not only seems useless but also unsafe. I hope it actually will be completed and not scrapped for future.

 
May 22, 2020 5:19pm
Avatar David R. Lane (77) 562 posts

I can only agree. It would help if, at least, the total donations figure was updated more promptly, especially as one’s donation isn’t always acknowledged by email and so you don’t know whether it has been received. Some totals end in a non-zero number of pence and one wonders whether some doners are giving an odd amount so that they can check whether it has been received. I might do this next time; but, if too many folk do, the trick won’t work.

Most importantly, can folk who haven’t yet donated please give something? There are only 66 doners so far for TCP/IP stack overhaul Step 2, and, as I have said before in this forum, the thousands of others who subscribe to this forum can’t all be paupers.

 
May 22, 2020 5:25pm
Avatar Kevin (224) 167 posts

Some totals end in a non-zero number of pence and one wonders whether some doners are giving an odd amount so that they can check whether it has been received.

It could be from donations from people from non £ currency countries donations.

 
May 22, 2020 5:26pm
Avatar Rick Murray (539) 10559 posts

Some totals end in a non-zero number of pence and one wonders whether some doners are giving an odd amount so that they can check whether it has been received.

What would you imagine €20 works out to be?

Edit: Hehe, Kevin got there before me. ;-)

 
May 22, 2020 5:33pm
Avatar Kevin (224) 167 posts

Using my currency exhagne rate application I thought I would do an exhange for the 4 currencies most non UK users of here would most likely to use:

1 Euro 0.894554
1 Australian dollar 0.536117
1 New Zealand dollar 0.5
1 US dollar 0.821455

 
May 22, 2020 5:34pm
Avatar Rick Murray (539) 10559 posts

Having 26 years outdated wifi driver

<pedantic>
I’d love to see the code for that, given that WiFi (as we know it – starting with 802.11b) was introduced in September 1999 following on from an earlier version of 802.11 from June 1997.
At any rate, younger than 26 years. ;-)
</pedantic>

 
May 22, 2020 5:40pm
Avatar Rick Murray (539) 10559 posts

1 Euro 0.894554

Is that the market rate or the bank rate? https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/policy_and_exchange_rates/euro_reference_exchange_rates/html/eurofxref-graph-gbp.en.html

The rate that banks offer is always worse than the stated rate as creaming a little off the top (and then adding commission and a fee for touching “foreign”) is how they make their wealth.

 
May 22, 2020 5:46pm
Avatar Kevin (224) 167 posts

Is that the market rate or the bank rate?

I think it is the market rate as the data comes from The Free Currency Converter API site

https://free.currencyconverterapi.com/

Which Currency by me allows currency conversions for lots of different currencies

http://kevsoft.co.uk/

 
May 24, 2020 2:02pm
Avatar Krzysztof Jeszke (6296) 30 posts

Oop! I must have mistaken the year of release by a bit.

 
May 26, 2020 10:15am
Avatar Chris Johns (8262) 192 posts

I think the TCP/IP stack overhaul is too big to miss, but I do wonder about the amount of work. It’s probably too much work for one person to do in their “spare time”, but the money up for grabs (sizeable as it is) isn’t enough for someone to actually use it as their main income.

My “day job” is a software developer, but given I can work from home I’ve not been furloughed (and with small kids off too, I think I have LESS time than before) – I would imagine that’s the same of many devs.

I don’t know if it would be possible / feasible for a group to so the work and split the bounty. Splitting up the work (and payout) to keep everyone happy would be the tricky bit.

 
May 26, 2020 3:06pm
Avatar Andy S (2979) 417 posts
Having 26 years outdated wifi driver

I’d love to see the code for that, given that WiFi (as we know it – starting with 802.11b) was introduced in September 1999 following on from an earlier version of 802.11 from June 1997.
At any rate, younger than 26 years. ;-)


Maybe the code used a software emulation of a flux capacitor. I don’t think the ARM ever had a hardware coprocessor for time travel onboard, although the architecture did seem to be ahead of its time!

 
May 26, 2020 5:43pm
Avatar Bryan Hogan (339) 443 posts

TCP/IP stack overhaul (Step 2 of 4) and TCP/IP stack overhaul (Step 3 of 4) seem to have no donations since a month.

Maybe these bounties have been overtaken by ROD’s announcement back in January that they have a commercial partner paying for the network stack to be rewritten. Their original plan was to have that done by the end of the year, but I don’t know how much that has been upset by the current world situation.

https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/5/topics/15006
https://www.iconbar.com/articles/Rougol_kicks_off_the_new_decade_with_a_new_venue_and_a_talk_by_Richard_Brown/index1528.html

 
May 26, 2020 7:12pm
Avatar Stewart Goldwater (1577) 75 posts

is how they make their wealth.

Money is NOT wealth:
https://www.awakin.org/read/view.php?tid=1022

I dare say you may think I’m being pernickety, but it’s a point that is almost always overlooked.

 
Jul 21, 2020 5:46pm
Avatar Braillynn (8510) 51 posts

I want to donate some funds, but unfortunately I’m unemployed and Covid has made finding work a little tough atm.

 
Oct 30, 2020 9:56pm
Avatar Steve Revill (20) 1339 posts

To update you guys on the main thrust of this thread, you’re correct in guessing that ROOL only update the bounty totals periodically. We try to be pretty prompt in doing this, but it is a manual process so subject to delays. Originally, we fully integrated the bounty system with PayPal’s APIs to try to have the totals updated automatically, but PayPal kept changing and breaking things with such monotonous regularity that it was creating more work for us than simply doing this process manually. Now, it’s just something on our wish list, alongside a more wide-ranging website revamp – unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future.

 
Oct 31, 2020 9:24pm
Avatar Rick Murray (539) 10559 posts

PayPal kept changing and breaking things

I wonder if they’ve fixed the bit about Germans with umlauts in their name?

[actually, it’s PayPal, I wonder if they even care]

but it is a manual process so subject to delays

I trust that the actual HTML is generated by some BASIC and somebody just plugs in the values…

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